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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 22, 2008 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

Yea, a look at the pacifists from that time period is a true cautionary tale. And I work for/with a "peace" group. Thanks in turn for the tip.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 22, 2008 2:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

Truly sad, tragic and disturbing all at once. Having swallowed the pablum about Chamberlin vs Churchill, etc., etc., I now realize that in many ways Chamberlin was doing exactly what any rational person would have done, and certainly was following the will of the people of both France and GB in appeasing the maniac...we always want history to be much simpler than it turns out to be.

Thanks again--great kicking it around.

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Poster: veblen Date: Aug 22, 2008 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

I always preferred the wilt-russell match-ups more than the chamberlin-churchill ones...

though churchill had a much better command of foreign policy and knew something about building a navy but he just didn't have the "D" that mr russell out of USF possessed...

oc course WC was a much better orator as well...if you have ever heard bill call a game you will appreciate that one...

press: well mr prime minister, general montgomary says that he doesn't smoke nor drink and he feels 100% better healthwise.

churchill: well tell monte that I both smoke and drink and I feel 200% better...

or something like that...




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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 22, 2008 3:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

Outstanding!

Yes, the interaction between Churchill and Monty: "I don't drink and I don't smoke, and I am 100% fit!" (Monty)..."Well...I drink...(takes swig)...and I smoke...(takes puff on cigar)...AND I am 200% fit!" (Winny).

It is a sobering thought indeed to realize that at my age Winny had been down and out for almost ten years, and yet had another ten to go before he got around to "blood, sweat, toil and tears!".

Who knows what's waiting for me?

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Poster: veblen Date: Aug 22, 2008 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

I don't think about it much but he was 66 in 1940...uncle joe was 62...

Even though I have always been extremely active, I still have pretty much gone to the churchill (smoke and drink) and twain ("we all feel the desire to exercise but I find if I sit back for a moment or two the feeling goes away") view of exercising, though I think the time has come to pretend that I enjoy running again. I would to hate to ever have to use the line: only if...

Regarding neville chamberlin: I am trying to recall the book that has him in first person during the munich conferences with AH in 38. For some reason Sartre's the age of reason comes to mind since there is a good portion of that work devoted to the French worrying about being called up with the fate of France and Europe dependent on the conference's outcome.

funny, I am just finishing a re-reading the Danzig Trilogy by Gunter Grass which is looking at the issue from the other perspective...

btw: thanks to you my winamp won't play anything but 68-06-14. Like most shows from 68 I find myself stopping at some point and going "wow" but this is one of the few shows I do it in the middle of st stephen. It is a wonderful and magical tune but the 06-14 version has a little extra kick to say the very least...maybe because they only had been playing it for two or three weeks...
oh, and the caution "ain't" too shabby either...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 22, 2008 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Cut & Paste, Will Travel

Damn, v! Could be worse, I suppose...what if it was Steve Miller?

Do be sure to check out tracks 1 & 10 on disk 4 of the mystery disks to hear much better renditions of the belove StSt with the repeated last verse...